Brett and I discussed the complexities of the politics disadvantage with our lab for four hours. Hao took notes on his laptop and has emailed me a copy, which I have attached below.
- This DA links to any plan that affects either the political agenda or an imminent election
- There are many different kinds of politics DAs that talks about the agendas during in Washington
Bush Good DA
- Uniqueness – X will pass now
- Link – Plan stops X from passing
o By spending Bush’s Political capitol so can’t pass X
o Bipartisanship – democrats and republic are working together, and plan breaks that
o Popularity – plan destroys the president’s popularity and he can’t pass X
o GOP Unity/Base – plan destroys the GOP base and agenda X can’t pass
o Losers Lose – when the plan gets FIAT in Congress, would Bush sign it?
o Specific Congressperson
o Flip Flop
Impact – X is good
Bush Bad DA
Uniqueness – X won’t pass now.
Link – plan causes X to pass
- olive branch/concessions/horsetrading
- winners win – if bush gets a victory, then everyone will think he is a winner and build momentum
- specific congressperson
Impact – X is bad
The plan affects the Congressional elections in Nov. 06, and the party it helps is bad/good
- premise of coattails – GOP depends on Bush
- issue stealth – GOP can steal that Nat’l Service Issue and garner strength from it.
- Base strength – GOP alienates conservative base
Types of Impacts
- post-election Agenda
- pre-election lashout/action
o just doing something before he is out of office
Tips for regarding Politics DA
- don’t disrespect it because you think it’s a load of crap
- don’t become overly dependent on it
- it will be a necessary strategic option on the National Service Topic.
o Politics cards are easy to find and cut – now is a good time to learn how and practice.
o Many affs this year are going to spend money or push PC and very easy to find political DAs.
Topics for Politics DAs
- Immigration Reform
o Bush has put his political clout behind reform efforts
o Strong conservative opposition exists against the senate’s compromise immigration bill
o Internal link evidence is strong now
§ Bush needs every bit of PC now to pass this bill
§ If you can find good internal link arguments, you have a pretty solid DA
o Impact areas: Economy, Terrorism, Agriculture, Population Control, etc.
- Recent legislative events reflect Election-year politics
o Gay Marriage Amendment and Flag-Burning
o Many spending Items are delayed until after November
o Bush Administration has cleaned house
o Most political analyst agree that the GOP will lose ground in November
§ But how much and where? Is it enough to lose enough power and give it to the democrats?
o Republicans are beginning to distant themselves from Bush
o Bush lacks any victories in his domestic agenda - could national service be his opening?
o While Iraq is the most important issue, what about wedge issues? Swing voters?
Always have a strategy because everything leads to politics
Always have good impacts.
You’ve got to be ready for it on the Aff.
Know the research when you are the Neg
Do updates for both sides.
“Bush”, “congress”, “house”, or “senate”
Find good idea
Find big impacts
Big internal link
Impacts that do with
After finding a good scenario, find uniqueness, but isn’t too determined, but has a fight.
Search terms “uphill battle” “hard push” “hard” “politically controversial” “vote counts”
Two types of uniqueness:
U. Issue specific (example: ANWR will pass)
U. Link specific (example: Bush has political capital)
Warrants given multiple scenarios must be specific to the effects of the plan.
Popular Unpopular - Congress
o Labor unions
o Old people (Advance Association of Senior Citizens)
o ID politics
o Teacher’s Unions
If it is an aff that the business lobbies like and they’re going to support it if there is an aff that they already like.
Lobby debate within the link debate. Lobbie comparison
Example: which has money, which has split views, etc.
Republic and Democrats
- want to say republicans key or democrats key
- “swing vote” people who aren’t ideologically in line with a side.
- not very strong, doesn’t always affect politics
- if the public doesn’t like the aff, there can be an affect, but if they like the aff, nothing’s going to change in the legislative.
- Political Capitol
- Flip flop
o congress/comities push
o gets link to Bush Good
- media focuses every piece of legislation upon Bush
- focus on one type of legislation vs another. Time spent on other legislations
- can be awesome
- cards, bush must "focus like a laser"
- veterans will lobby a lot on the Armed Forces affs
- date is very important.
- Bipartisan support <= question it
o Doesn’t always mean all republican and democrats are agreeing with each other.
- difference between senate and house of republicans
- Bush has never vetoed
- GOP Backlash because Bush was flip flop
- Winners win – bush thinks he’s winning, and public looks at him as a winner, perspective argument
- Concessions – olive branch and
- horse trade – interference with another agenda and even if they are opposite work together to get things to occur
- bipartisanship support
- partisanship – causes controversy
- impact calculus
o time frame
§ if extinction or nuke war came before the plan was implemented, then the plan’s pointless
§ harms in long run is never positively true
§ compare it from your ! against the Aff’s !
§ no risk of offense
§ make aff’s impacts look like nothing
- systemic – sure to happen, but might be small, but doesn’t matter because it is positive to happen and on going.
- Opposite is probabilistic, may or may not happen.
Watch out for internal links to strong impacts that are usually bullshit. Take out the i/l.
Impact turning is rough because the Neg has their file ready, but do so if you are desperate for offense.
Politics are the most realistic. The only reason we have voting through legislature is due to the fact that the PC has the affect on passing things
AT: Bad Arguments
Bottom of the Docket
- the list of bills and when they are going to be voted on
- The plan is the last or next thing on the Docket
- Answer by “normal means”.
- 2AC clarification and makes them conditional
- Not topical
- Destroys ground
- And limits because of the timeframe.
- Words in the resolution, resolved, must occur.
- Say: It is future fiat and that is illegit, due to take out on ground, limits, and not topical. Bad for education because it destroys politics DAs
Immediate (Fiat takes out the link)
- FIAT magic wand. No expenditure of PC.
- Causes bad debate of the Neg to read a card just saying that the Aff has no PC and therefore the plan can’t pass. This forces the Aff to fiat and not have to expend any PC.
- This argument is very unreal world.
- Effects of the plan happening, and others are happening of the plan.
- AT: this is irrelevant because Bush can still lose.
- The whole point of the game of debate is to argue the process and the effects of the Plan
- Doesn’t mean things magically happen, and you don’t debate about the process
Not being in session
- if you cut a card when the bill isn’t occurring
- Congress hasn’t been in session, and the date is the same in the political world if congress hasn’t met or voted on anything. Therefore the agenda won’t change until the next session.
- Special session argument, is when bush can push for such a session he should have enough PC to pass the plan anyways.
- nothing sticks to him
- he can deflect blame from anything
- flip flops are inevitable
- “turn shields” makes you win on the link debate. Ex. Public doesn’t matter, lobbies don’t matter.
1NR to go on the Politic DA
- avoid CX (but you want to be questioned about something you know you know you are right)
- more prep time for more evidence comparison.
- They make answers to the DAs
- Add more impacts
- More impact analysis